Tuesday, February 3, 2009

Looney Lowers Collective I.Q. of Entire Planet!

Nadya Suleman: Winner of our 'Useless Git of the Week' Award

A kid-crazy California single mom who already had six children gave birth to octuplets last week.

Nadya Suleman, 33, who conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has no visible means of support for her current family, let alone the additional eight babies that now give her enough offspring to field a football team with three substitutes. In fact, Suleman still lives with her parents. Her family has revealed that she may have serious mental-health problems.

Suleman has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, "but luckily she couldn't," her mother Angela Suleman said, adding, "It can't go on any longer."

While her daughter recovers, Granny is taking care of the other six children, ages 2 through 7, (And why not? Look how well Nadya turned out), at the family home in Whittier, about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles. She said she warned her daughter that when she gets home from the hospital, "I'm going to be gone."

The family lives in a ramshackle house--the only one on the well-kept block--with a barren front yard. A front window is held together with electrical tape. Toys, a stroller and a tricycle are strewn about.

How the heck does a woman with six children get a fertility doctor to help her have eight more?

Large multiple births "are presented on TV shows as a 'Brady Bunch' moment. They're not," fumed Arthur Caplan, bioethics chairman at the University of Pennsylvania. He noted the serious and sometimes lethal complications and crushing medical costs that often come with high-multiple births.

The case of the Suleman octuplets is now sending shockwaves through the medical fertility community. Reputable doctors can't understand how a healthy mother-of-six could have been allowed to have fertility treatment that resulted in octuplets without serious questions arising about the mother's mental health, her capacity to raise such a large family or the huge medical dangers involved in giving birth to so many babies at once.

Dr. David Adamson, former president of the American Society of Reproductive Medicine, said he was bracing for some backlash against his specialty. In 30 years of practice, "I have never provided fertility treatment to a woman with six children," or ever heard of a similar case, said Adamson, director of Fertility Physicians of Northern California.

Women seeking fertility treatment are routinely asked to give a detailed history of prior pregnancies and births, and "it's a very realistic question to ask about someone who has six children: How does this fit into the concept of requiring fertility treatment?" Adamson said.

Professional guidelines generally restrict the number of embryos to one or two to avoid dangerous multiple pregnancies.

"The cost of taking care of multiples is huge," said Dr. Vicken Sahakian, director of the Pacific Fertility Center in Los Angeles. "It's not going to finish when the babies go home. There's a high likelihood they're going to have [long-term] medical and psychological handicaps."

Several doctors said it is not their role to dictate family size.

"I am not a policeman for reproduction in the United States. My role is to educate patients," said a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at a New York university.

One doctor who has fertility clinics in Los Angeles, Las Vegas and New York, countered: "Who am I to say that six is the limit? There are people who like to have big families."

In so absolving themselves of the need to exercise anything resembling good judgment, doctors bring to mind the definition of the difference between a moral man and an ethical man: The moral man knows it is immoral to sleep with another man's wife and does not. The ethical man knows it is immoral to sleep with another man's wife but does so anyway.

The births were a hot topic of conversation on the Internet, with many people incredulous that a woman with six children would try to have more--and that a doctor would help her do so. Some criticized the doctor and suggested that the mother would be overwhelmed trying to raise her brood and would end up relying on public support.


When Nadya Suleman's father, Edward, briefly emerged from the house he shares with his daughter and her enormous brood, he did not appear full of the joys of enlarging his family with more grandchildren. "I wish it happens to you people, so you go through hell," he snapped at the media throng as he unloaded shopping bags from his car. It was later revealed that Edward was considering going back to his native Iraq.

Gee, what a wonderful, loving atmosphere these kids are going to grow up in, huh? Mom's nuts, Grandma can't raise normal children and Grumps Gramps is hot-footing it to the Middle-East where all he has to contend with are suicide bombers.

Where is Mom going to get enough breasts to feed eight kids, anyway? And can you imagine changing all those diapers every couple of hours? Oh, the profanity!

Now, I'm not against in-vitro fertilization, but on an overcrowded planet of well over six billion people--at least a billion of whom are starving according to statistics--I think there should be reasonable, minimum standards for granting the procedure:
  • Both parents must score at least 110 on a well-designed I.Q. test, (Yes, yes, I know--there will be people with the I.Q. of a potted geranium who will howl bloody murder at this, but who really cares what stupid people think? It's bad enough they're allowed to drive and vote.) Note: I use the word think here in it's loosest form.
  • Both parents must be able to properly pronounce the word nuclear.
  • Both parents must sign--in blood--a legal document stating that at least 50% of their offsprings' education will concentrate on math and science and that they will not expose said children to the teachings of violence-oriented religions except to explain why christians, jews and muslims all delight in capping each other's patooties.
  • Both parents must agree to teach their offspring how to properly pronounce the word nuclear.
We're certainly not going to see any rocket scientists out of Nadya's litter. The best we can hope for is that they all turn out to be sterile so they can't pee in the gene pool.

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10 comments:

Anonymous said...

This entry is discriminatory and ignorant. Why should the "reasonable, minimum standards" only apply to people who want to do IVF? If they have to satisfy those four criteria, then anyone who wants to have children should have to. If a limit is placed on the number of children people can have by IVF, then there should also be a limit on the number of children people can have naturally. (Incidentally, the number of children conceived naturally far outweighs the number conceived through IVF.)

Anonymous said...

I think the standards were a joke, really. But I think everyone agrees that it is irresponsible to have 14 children under the age of 8, with no job, and no help, from a husband or otherwise. She is only concerned with cashing in on her fame and fortune and could care less about those kids. They are going to end up struggling their whole lives.

Anonymous said...

Maybe this entry, and the standards, were a joke. If so, what was McCright's point? If it was, like you said, that Suleman was being irresponsible by having 8 more children, he could have made it without even bringing up IVF. If his point was that Suleman's doctor shouldn't have performed the treatment, then Suleman could have made it without harping on IVF in general. Most of the people I know who have done or want to do IVF, and I know quite a few, are married, college-educated, relatively financially well-off couples who are hoping for their first child after years of trying on their own and using lower-tech infertility treatments. Infertility is such a heartbreaking experience that it's difficult to have a sense of humor about it unless the one who's making the joke has gone through it themselves. Maybe McCright has, but I think his joke in this case was a bad one. And I'm still not sure what his point was.

Anonymous said...

Oops - I meant McCright, not Suleman, could have made his point without harping on IVF.

Anonymous said...

Everyone seems to miss the "obvious" on this one!! The point is it's just not possible to give 14 babies (and kids) the nurturing and upbringing they deserve by a single parent without viable income in today's world.

So...why sweat it out? After a year, it seems probable that we'll hear that six (or more) of the Suleman infants (and/or other children) have been placed for adoption with some "well-off" couples. This is the only solution that makes sense.

Ileana said...

I'd like to get a look at her passport. I can't believe that she received the in vitro in this country. Even the mom said she didn't pay for it, and grandpa said that they have a much bigger house and that when the kids all come back, they're going there and we'll never see them again (it's important to pay attention to the first stories that come out).

So, who did pay for it? And why? Who's the sperm donor? Is it the same one for all 14 kids? Where's this big house grandpa was referring to? In Iraq? Why did she wait until she was three months pregnant before going to the doctor in L.A.? If doctors in the U.S. told her they would not do her in vitro and she went elsewhere (Mexico? Iraq?) to have this done, are Americans responsible for her medical bills, WIC stamps, child care, etc? Has she ever been on welfare? Is she an American citizen? If she has never taken from the public coffers and does not intend to, where's the money coming from? The sperm donor? The country that did her in vitro? If she's receiving support money from somewhere, is that money also paying for her college tuition? if not, and she's getting student loans, is she declaring that support money?

Way too many questions....

Anonymous said...

I do wonder how, exactly, this woman's situation slipped through the cracks.

We don't know that grandma is crazy. Grandma could be normal, but Nadya could have a mental disorder or chemical imbalance.

And McCright, it might be easier to listen to you spewing about intelligence if you didn't have spelling errors in your post.

Alan McCright said...

Thank you all for your input. Some points were raised in the comments I shall address—en masse—here and in order.

“This entry is discriminatory…”

Absolutely! It discriminates against stupid people. I’m all for that—tell your friends.

“…and ignorant.”

Nonsense.

“Why should the "reasonable, minimum standards" only apply to people who want to do IVF?”

Um, because it’s an invasive medical procedure? Subject to standards and review?

“If they have to satisfy those four criteria, then anyone who wants to have children should have to. If a limit is placed on the number of children people can have by IVF, then there should also be a limit on the number of children people can have naturally.”

You’re right! We need to place proctors in every bedroom and mud hut across six continents. Someone will have to coordinate that. Since it was your idea, I nominate you for the job. You’ll like Zimbabwe.

“(Incidentally, the number of children conceived naturally far outweighs the number conceived through IVF.)”

REALLY???? (pages quickly through The Joy of Sex) My golly jeepers! You’re RIGHT!!! Who told you?

And thank you for howling bloody murder.

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“Maybe this entry, and the standards, were a joke.”

No, not really. How many of you want stupid people working on the brakes of your daughter’s car? Show of hands, please? OK, thanks. Now, how many want stupid people maintaining that airliner you’re about to board? How about stupid people doing your taxes? Auditing your taxes? Constructing highway overpasses? Building that skyscraper your company will move into next year? Maintaining the purity of your tap water? Wiring your house? No? Then why on Earth should we breed them by artificial means?

“If so, what was McCright's point? If it was, like you said, that Suleman was being irresponsible by having 8 more children, he could have made it without even bringing up IVF. If his point was that Suleman's doctor shouldn't have performed the treatment, then [McCright] could have made it without harping on IVF in general.”

I’m sorry, but can you read? The main issue in my blog and—it seems—every major news outlet in the English-speaking world is the fact that this woman—who, according to her own family, has mental problems—had a whopping 14 children, all by in-vitro procedures: The last procedure, certainly, even experts in the field indicate should not have been undertaken. What part of that do you not understand?

“Most of the people I know who have done or want to do IVF, and I know quite a few, are married, college-educated, relatively financially well-off couples who are hoping for their first child after years of trying on their own and using lower-tech infertility treatments.”

Good for them—I hope they are successful. We need more people on this planet with more than two working neurons.

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Ileana said...

“I'd like to get a look at her passport. I can't believe that she received the in vitro in this country.”

I’d like to agree with you here, Ileana, but in a country where you can get meth from your high school coach and Senate seats are up for sale, I’d say anything’s possible.

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“And McCright, it might be easier to listen to you spewing about intelligence if you didn't have spelling errors in your post.”

GASP! My sincere apologies on that. I hate seeing spelling errors anywhere. I looked at that post three times before submitting and still missed them. Thank you for catching them—they have been corrected. Can’t promise that such won’t happen again, but I will be much more careful in the future.

Anonymous said...

Why can't anyone say it out loud - Grandpa is the "anonymous Iraqi translator sperm donor" which makes the saga even sicker. Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't high tail it back to Iraq not to make money but to get out of town before it comes out.

Alan McCright said...

"Why can't anyone say it out loud - Grandpa is the "anonymous Iraqi translator sperm donor" which makes the saga even sicker. Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't high tail it back to Iraq not to make money but to get out of town before it comes out."

I wouldn't be surprised at anything anyone in this "family" does.

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